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Sources: Chicago still the most likely preference for Bryant
By Chris Sheridan
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Updated: October 27, 2007, 4:37 PM ET
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The Kobe Bryant-to-Chicago trade talks are very real, and they've been real for a while.

The Los Angeles Lakers and Chicago Bulls have been having daily discussions about Bryant trade possibilities for at least the past week, with Bryant's no-trade clause throwing a unique wrench into the situation, according to sources.

The Lakers are asking for a package built around Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah, which is more than Chicago is willing to surrender. Also, Bryant would not want to play in Chicago if the Bulls surrendered all four of those players, believing there would not be enough talent left to compete for a championship, and he would veto that trade even if the Bulls and Lakers were both in favor of it.

Further complicating matters is the division within the upper echelon of the Lakers front office, a house divided between the competing desires of owner Jerry Buss, his son, Jim, daughter Jeanie (and her boyfriend, coach Phil Jackson) and general manager Mitch Kupchak. According to sources, one faction seems more determined than ever to part with Bryant, while others still are hanging onto the belief that Bryant can still be persuaded to stay in Los Angeles.

Bryant sat out the Lakers' final exhibition game Friday night in Las Vegas after injuring his right wrist in the Lakers' previous game. It has become an accepted fact around the Lakers that Bryant still wishes to be traded, and two sources with direct knowledge of the ongoing trade discussions said Bryant's preferred -- and most likely -- destination remains Chicago.

So while the NBA's only no-trade clause gives Bryant a substantial amount of leverage in determining his future, it also is hampering the Lakers in their efforts to get something approaching fair value for arguably the best player in the league. One source said the Bulls' supposed opposition to including Deng in any deal had been overstated in recent media reports.

A source told ESPN.com that the likelihood of a Bryant trade before opening night seemed higher a few days ago than it does now, and a deal going down sometime before the end of November now seemed more likely. But the situation remained fluid, and with other teams trying to lobby the Bryant camp to get on the list of his acceptable destinations, the trade possibilities surrounding Bryant only figured to increase in the days leading up to Tuesday night's start of the NBA season.

Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.


hope this isnt true, and the bulls would NEVER give up luol deng and ben gordon, seems very unlikely the trade will happen.
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- DutheDoduhon21   The Kobe Thread   Oct 27 2007, 04:01 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   That is why Pax isn't making any deals for the...   Oct 27 2007, 06:57 PM
- - Brian   Pax is way to smart to trade gordon/deng/tyrus/noa...   Oct 27 2007, 08:16 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Nothing is going to happen until December 15th whe...   Oct 27 2007, 10:23 PM
- - soxfan101   Im sorry I dont even want to give up 2 of those 4 ...   Oct 28 2007, 03:33 AM
- - steve9347   OH MY GOD. Why won't the press stop with this...   Oct 28 2007, 09:47 AM
- - 72-10   i have an oddly strong feeling this will go down, ...   Oct 28 2007, 09:50 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Deng isn't even close to Pippen, but its a goo...   Oct 28 2007, 03:25 PM
- - b-riann   this is why i repeatedly keep saying i will only b...   Oct 28 2007, 04:04 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (b-riann @ Oct 28 2007, 04:13 ...   Oct 28 2007, 04:12 PM
|- - b-riann   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 28 2007, 05:21 PM) A...   Oct 28 2007, 08:37 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (b-riann @ Oct 28 2007, 07:46 ...   Oct 28 2007, 09:38 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   It is all about depth when it comes to the postsea...   Oct 28 2007, 07:41 PM
- - Wanne   Hey....if any deal is going to happen...it HAS TO ...   Oct 28 2007, 11:15 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 29 2007, 12:24 AM) Hey...   Oct 29 2007, 12:52 AM
- - sport1016   About needing a good bench to win a championship, ...   Oct 28 2007, 11:45 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   Crap, I was hoping with the season approaching thi...   Oct 29 2007, 07:56 AM
- - steve9347   If someone can show me a deal that doesnt include ...   Oct 29 2007, 08:57 AM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 29 2007, 10:06 AM)...   Oct 29 2007, 09:39 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 29 2007, 10:06 AM)...   Oct 29 2007, 10:47 AM
- - steve9347   They aren't trading Deng. Don't even bothe...   Oct 29 2007, 10:23 AM
- - b-riann   i'd give up noc, duhon, gordon, noah, and a 1s...   Oct 29 2007, 03:25 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Before all of this I liked the idea of trading Kir...   Oct 29 2007, 03:52 PM
- - GreatScott82   Phil Jackson admitting there has been talks pretty...   Oct 29 2007, 04:53 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I just can't see us getting rid of Ty Thomas w...   Oct 29 2007, 06:42 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Oct 29 2007,...   Oct 29 2007, 07:16 PM
- - GreatScott82   By all means... If we can get Kobe for a package o...   Oct 29 2007, 07:22 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I just think your giving a way a whole lot of tale...   Oct 29 2007, 10:24 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Oct 29 2007,...   Oct 30 2007, 10:02 AM
- - ZoomSlowik   GreatScott, your math is a little off, though I do...   Oct 30 2007, 10:19 AM
- - soxfan3530   Today they are talking about a Gordon/Noah/Thomas ...   Oct 30 2007, 10:45 AM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Oct 30 2007, 11:54 AM...   Oct 30 2007, 11:24 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Don't forget we still have PJ Brown's cont...   Oct 30 2007, 03:09 PM
- - AtHomeBoy_2000   I have a very good feeling this trade will get don...   Oct 31 2007, 01:24 PM
- - steve9347   Take it for what it's worth, but Dan Bernstein...   Oct 31 2007, 01:27 PM
|- - kyyle23   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 31 2007, 02:36 PM)...   Oct 31 2007, 01:46 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   I would definitely take that with a grain of salt,...   Oct 31 2007, 01:45 PM
- - steve9347   Phil Jackson has openly stated he'd love to ha...   Oct 31 2007, 02:29 PM
|- - kyyle23   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:38 PM)...   Oct 31 2007, 02:31 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   The trade involves Sacremento giving up Ron Artest...   Oct 31 2007, 03:08 PM
- - soxfan3530   Im not sure the Score knows what they are talking ...   Oct 31 2007, 03:29 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   My prediction: Gordon, Kirk and the others start ...   Oct 31 2007, 03:30 PM
- - scs787   if they can get a trade done that doesnt involve d...   Oct 31 2007, 04:18 PM
- - SoxFan1   Radio reports say Wallace and Gordon leaving...   Oct 31 2007, 04:32 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   ESPN reported that the deal with Chi sending Gordo...   Oct 31 2007, 04:46 PM
- - scs787   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Oct 31 2007,...   Oct 31 2007, 05:07 PM
- - DrunkBomber   Im damned curious to see whats gonna happen with t...   Oct 31 2007, 05:09 PM
- - Bullseye   I don't love the idea of trading Wallace, but ...   Oct 31 2007, 06:13 PM
- - Sanitarium   I dont see LA taking Wallace at all. And we have t...   Oct 31 2007, 07:01 PM
- - steve9347   I really think Kobe is going to be a Chicago Bull ...   Oct 31 2007, 07:01 PM
|- - GreatScott82   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 31 2007, 08:10 PM)...   Oct 31 2007, 07:22 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   We need him. I know its one game but from what I...   Oct 31 2007, 07:17 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Oct 31 2007,...   Oct 31 2007, 07:19 PM
- - Sanitarium   per ESPN the deal that fell through was: Bulls GE...   Oct 31 2007, 07:20 PM
- - GreatScott82   If Phoenix comes back into talks it can go like th...   Oct 31 2007, 07:26 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Lol I thought it was funny to find out that if SAC...   Oct 31 2007, 08:00 PM
- - RME JICO   From Rotoworld: QUOTE According to ESPN's Ric ...   Oct 31 2007, 08:27 PM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (RME JICO @ Oct 31 2007, 09:36 PM) ...   Oct 31 2007, 08:48 PM
- - Schalke   No need to rush things. Pax just needs to play his...   Oct 31 2007, 09:03 PM
|- - GreatScott82   QUOTE (Schalke @ Oct 31 2007, 09:12 PM) N...   Oct 31 2007, 09:06 PM
|- - Schalke   QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Oct 31 2007, 10:15 ...   Oct 31 2007, 09:23 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I just don't want to get into such a deep hole...   Oct 31 2007, 09:07 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I've recreated a thread so that we can keep al...   Oct 31 2007, 09:34 PM
- - Brian   Probably could just merge this with the thread bel...   Oct 31 2007, 09:37 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   This is for all the latest info. I thought we may ...   Oct 31 2007, 09:45 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   why were they screwing around trying to make this ...   Oct 31 2007, 10:28 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Oct 31 2007, 11...   Oct 31 2007, 11:23 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   the deadline to trade for kobe wasn't tonight....   Oct 31 2007, 11:49 PM
- - sport1016   OK i merged these topics bc they are covering the ...   Nov 1 2007, 01:56 AM
- - steve9347   Dan Bernstein is talking about this right now. I...   Nov 1 2007, 01:20 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   I wonder if the lack movement on a contract extent...   Nov 1 2007, 02:15 PM
- - 72-10   I recently heard the possibility of a Kirk and Ben...   Nov 1 2007, 02:33 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (72-10 @ Nov 1 2007, 03:42 PM)...   Nov 1 2007, 02:35 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Hmm well Pax did what I thought he should, he put ...   Nov 1 2007, 02:45 PM
- - MurcieOne   John Paxon will be remembered in one of two ways ...   Nov 1 2007, 03:24 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 1 2007, 04:33 PM) ...   Nov 1 2007, 03:27 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I hate to think he is a conservative gm but he is....   Nov 1 2007, 03:34 PM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 1 2007, ...   Nov 2 2007, 07:16 AM
- - Sanitarium   I doesn't matter if Paxson wants to give up de...   Nov 1 2007, 07:40 PM
- - GreatScott82   Talks will once again heat up around December 15th...   Nov 1 2007, 07:55 PM
|- - b-riann   QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 1 2007, 09:04 P...   Nov 1 2007, 10:22 PM
- - Sanitarium   General manager John Paxson basically squashed the...   Nov 1 2007, 08:42 PM
- - MurcieOne   if the deal with the kings would have went through...   Nov 1 2007, 11:01 PM
- - MurcieOne   I'm still in disbelief that Kobe Bryant could ...   Nov 1 2007, 11:13 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 1 2007, 11:22 PM) ...   Nov 2 2007, 12:19 AM
- - steve9347   I'm over it. Let's move on with what we...   Nov 2 2007, 09:29 AM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Nov 2 2007, 10:38 AM) ...   Nov 2 2007, 10:29 AM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Nov 2 2007, 09...   Nov 2 2007, 10:55 AM
|- - Sanitarium   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Nov 2 2007, 01...   Nov 2 2007, 03:25 PM
- - The Dude Abides   My 2 cents... I believe the trade is done and agr...   Nov 3 2007, 10:05 AM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (The Dude Abides @ Nov 3 2007, 11:1...   Nov 3 2007, 10:12 AM
- - MB33   duno if the money is equal but i would trade gord...   Nov 4 2007, 09:17 AM
|- - b-riann   QUOTE (MB33 @ Nov 4 2007, 09:26 AM) duno ...   Nov 4 2007, 10:29 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Right now I'd give them Deng, Kirk and Wallace...   Nov 4 2007, 11:44 AM
|- - b-riann   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 4 2007, ...   Nov 4 2007, 01:40 PM
- - Balta1701-B   Nothing new here, but I think folks absolutely mus...   Nov 6 2007, 02:50 PM
|- - steve9347   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Nov 6 2007, 02...   Nov 6 2007, 03:02 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   Its an interesting point/counterpoint, but I reall...   Nov 6 2007, 03:12 PM
- - Sense-A   I would NOT like to see kobe as a chicago bull. I...   Nov 18 2007, 10:57 AM
- - 72-10   I heard that Kobe is going to be buying MJ's h...   Nov 18 2007, 11:24 AM
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