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ZoomSlowik
post Aug 10 2009, 12:41 PM
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I know it's a little early, but the off-season is winding down and there's nothing else to talk about before football starts anyways. lolhitting.gif

What teams do you think are going to be legit threats? Who are your sleepers? Who is going to underachieve? What players are due for a breakout?

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eddog2
post Aug 12 2009, 03:59 PM
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Back to the Wizards. Maybe this will help some of you jump on the bandwagon. Is Gilbert set to make a Wade "light" type comeback following two injury plagued seasons? If so, I think top 4 in the east is for sure a possiblity.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4394425

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/outlet/.../arenas-update/
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post Aug 12 2009, 06:13 PM
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"There's no question, a player of his talent, when he's playing, he puts us from a team that's competing for the playoffs to a team that's an elite team in the playoffs. When you walk in the gym right now, you wouldn't think that he's hurt," Saunders said.


This quote right here is the big problem. The Wizards weren't a playoff team last year, in fact they weren't remotely close to the playoffs. Even if you say that Arenas makes them 15 games better, which is pretty generous considering Dwyane Wade "only" had 14.4 win shares last year, they'd have to make up another 7 wins just to get to .500, and another 5-10 to get homecourt in the first round. If he's even remotely off, they're still stuck in the 30's for wins.
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post Aug 12 2009, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 12 2009, 05:13 PM) *
This quote right here is the big problem. The Wizards weren't a playoff team last year, in fact they weren't remotely close to the playoffs. Even if you say that Arenas makes them 15 games better, which is pretty generous considering Dwyane Wade "only" had 14.4 win shares last year, they'd have to make up another 7 wins just to get to .500, and another 5-10 to get homecourt in the first round. If he's even remotely off, they're still stuck in the 30's for wins.

So that Miami team last year without Wade was a 36-46 team and was about as good as the Pacers? I'm not sure I buy that.
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post Aug 12 2009, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Aug 12 2009, 08:16 PM) *
So that Miami team last year without Wade was a 36-46 team and was about as good as the Pacers? I'm not sure I buy that.


As I kind of implied in that post, in the NBA one win share= 1 win (at least using this system). So 43-14=29 which is maybe a bit high but still gets across the general point that Wade single handedly takes them from quite bad to the #5 seed.
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- ZoomSlowik   09/10 NBA Predictions   Aug 10 2009, 12:41 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   I'll throw my thoughts on the standings in her...   Aug 10 2009, 01:18 PM
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|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Aug 10 2009, 04:55 PM) 4....   Aug 10 2009, 08:15 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10 2009, 09:15 PM...   Aug 11 2009, 07:44 AM
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- - Sanitarium   just gonna put my playoff teams down: EAST: 1. Ma...   Aug 10 2009, 06:48 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Sanitarium @ Aug 10 2009, 07:48 PM...   Aug 11 2009, 07:47 AM
|- - Sanitarium   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Aug 11 2009, 09:47 AM) No...   Aug 11 2009, 11:30 AM
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|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Aug 11 2009, 08:47 AM) Of...   Aug 11 2009, 01:00 PM
|- - Sanitarium   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 11 2009, 03:00 PM...   Aug 11 2009, 01:36 PM
- - eddog2   I hate the Spurs but I agree with Zoom that they c...   Aug 11 2009, 08:21 AM
- - ZoomSlowik   McGrady wouldn't solve anything for the Piston...   Aug 11 2009, 02:15 PM
- - Sanitarium   I don't think it's impossible for the divi...   Aug 11 2009, 02:22 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Sanitarium @ Aug 11 2009, 03:22 PM...   Aug 11 2009, 02:48 PM
|- - eddog2   Zoom, I agree with you about Charlie V. I've ...   Aug 11 2009, 05:26 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   I seriously doubt they bench Villanueva given the ...   Aug 11 2009, 06:13 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 11 2009, 07:13 PM...   Aug 11 2009, 10:59 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   I think you really overestimate Prince's abili...   Aug 12 2009, 12:16 AM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 12 2009, 01:16 AM...   Aug 12 2009, 07:54 AM
- - ZoomSlowik   If you read what I wrote more closely, there was c...   Aug 12 2009, 10:03 AM
- - eddog2   Back to the Wizards. Maybe this will help some of...   Aug 12 2009, 03:59 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE "There's no question, a player of h...   Aug 12 2009, 06:13 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 12 2009, 05:13 PM...   Aug 12 2009, 07:16 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Aug 12 2009, 08...   Aug 12 2009, 08:29 PM
|- - Sanitarium   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 12 2009, 10:29 PM...   Aug 12 2009, 10:49 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 12 2009, 09:29 PM...   Aug 13 2009, 08:18 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Aug 13 2009, 09:18 AM) If...   Aug 13 2009, 09:54 AM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 13 2009, 10:54 AM...   Aug 13 2009, 01:03 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   It's probably not a good sign when even after ...   Aug 13 2009, 07:23 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 13 2009, 08:23 PM...   Aug 14 2009, 09:56 AM
- - Sanitarium   I'm gonna side with Zoom on this one   Aug 13 2009, 08:17 PM


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