 Ben Wallace's numbers..., Too early to be dissapointed? |
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 Nov 17 2006, 11:55 PM
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10 boards and 4 blocks tonight, 5 steals the other night...I'm not worried.
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Nov 19 2006, 09:56 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
All I have to say is no way you can blame Wallace for the Bulls' problems so far. Another good game, with 13 boards, 2 blocks, and a steal. But he also provides you with things you dont see on the box score. All the passes he tips coming down low, for example.
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Nov 19 2006, 09:58 PM
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There is a helluva lot more to defense than steals and blocks.
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Nov 19 2006, 09:59 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:51 PM)  There is a helluva lot more to defense than steals and blocks. And rebounds. QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:49 PM) But he also provides you with things you dont see on the box score. All the passes he tips coming down low, for example.
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Nov 19 2006, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:52 PM) And rebounds. Was just confirming your point, well said. |
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Nov 19 2006, 10:01 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
It also pisses me off that no one talks about how easily the guards let their man get past them. Instead, everyone blames Wallace for the opponent's amount of points in the paint.
QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:52 PM) Was just confirming your point, well said. Gotcha, my fault. |
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Nov 19 2006, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:54 PM) It also pisses me off that no one talks about how easily the guards let their man get past them. Instead, everyone blames Wallace for the opponent's amount of points in the paint. Gotcha, my fault. Ya, they were talking about that before the game. Ben kinda has to play all over the place because of the ridiculous amount of help he needs to supply. |
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Nov 20 2006, 03:24 AM
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Interesting tidbit from Elias:
QUOTE Andrew Bynum scored 12 points with 13 rebounds in the Lakers' 82-72 win over the Bulls. It was the third consecutive game in which a center starting opposite Ben Wallace had at least 12 points and 12 boards. There was no month last season in which Wallace's opposing centers had more than one such game.
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Nov 20 2006, 11:03 AM
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I totally agree with whoever said the gaurds and some others are not ding their job on D. The more you watch the games, the more clearly it is visible that people are just getting inside way too easy on us, and yes, Walalce cannot be accountable for every defensive play on the floor.
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Nov 20 2006, 02:19 PM
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Big Ben has been great, but people tend to fly right past Ben Gordon and Luol Deng, so when he rotates, that tends to leave opposing centers wide open down low. See the Dampier game if you require evidence. That tid bit RME JICO posted shouldn't mean jack to any serious Bulls fans. It goes a hell of a lot deeper than Wallace vs. opposing centers.
Luol has them long arms that can wreak havoc on your outside shot, but he just doesn't have the foot speed to stop people from penetrating. You can live with that if you ship Ben Gordon the hell out of here, though. |
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Nov 21 2006, 11:47 PM
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Big Ben is a decent power forward but we need a more dominant presence at C... We are too undersized...
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Nov 22 2006, 03:54 PM
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I hate how Ben just stands around on offense. He needs to be agressive and just force up some stuff cause we get him the ball in amazing position and he does nothing with it. Because of that no one has to even come close to him.
He's got to force the issue from time to time or just always try to throw it down when he gets amazing position. He may not make it that often, but it will keep the defense honest. |
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Nov 22 2006, 07:00 PM
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Another good thing about Ben is his passing. I think he's averaging about 2 apg, which could be
more if the Bulls were knocking down more shots. |
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Nov 24 2006, 09:02 PM
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Wow, Big Ben just tearin it up tonight huh....
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Nov 24 2006, 09:14 PM
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everyone here is very insightful and has the "in"...so does anyone have any idea why big ben dint play very much at all tonight (VS. PHI)?
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