2012 offseason FA/trade rumor thread |
2012 offseason FA/trade rumor thread |
Jun 27 2012, 10:43 PM
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Jun 27 2012, 10:50 PM
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Hard to pass judgment on Butler's defense given the extremely limited minutes he had last year.
It is also terribly difficult to judge a center's defense vs a wing's. One thing to keep in mind is there aren't many great centers in the league anymore and I have to think that a Noah isn't going to do all that well against Dwight Howard anyway. On the other hand, Noah has a much more significant role as a help defender than Luol ever could. I don't know, they were both very integral in making our defense so tough these past two years. I stand by my sentiment that Noah is more difficult to replace...making his value to us higher. |
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Jun 28 2012, 01:10 AM
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Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 232 Joined: 7-November 09 Member No.: 1,962 |
Hard to pass judgment on Butler's defense given the extremely limited minutes he had last year. It is also terribly difficult to judge a center's defense vs a wing's. One thing to keep in mind is there aren't many great centers in the league anymore and I have to think that a Noah isn't going to do all that well against Dwight Howard anyway. On the other hand, Noah has a much more significant role as a help defender than Luol ever could. I don't know, they were both very integral in making our defense so tough these past two years. I stand by my sentiment that Noah is more difficult to replace...making his value to us higher. Noah can D up on the wing...so can Taj. It's very rare to have post defenders that can do that. It's not odd to see Joakim on LeBron. |
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Jul 1 2012, 12:29 AM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 1-July 06 Member No.: 183 |
Need to bump this baby... Its free agency time and there a lot of interesting UDFA out there.
Apparently John Shurna worked out for the Bulls before the draft. If he can guard SFs at the NBA level I'd love to give him a shot at taking over in Korvers spot. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06...au-bulls-jersey Henry Sims sure would look nice over Asik. Omers D is nice but his butterfingers and lack of offensive game is really, REALLY annoying. Give me the 7 footer from Georgetown, those guys tend to be pretty good. If Shurna can't be relied on to play SF then William Bufford would be nice. Aaron Brooks/Teague Rip/Butler Lu/Shurna Boozer/Taj Noah/Sims If Shurna can't play the 3 then swap him with Bufford and switch him and Butler. Not sure how much Aaron Brooks is gonna make this offseason, I think he's certainly worth more than the 5 mil MLE we have but he played in China last year so maybe he would take a 1 year 5mill contract? |
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Jul 1 2012, 12:30 AM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 1-July 06 Member No.: 183 |
I posted that last post twice and don't know how to delete it so I'll just edit it...Who do you guys want to see added in free agency??
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Jul 1 2012, 03:18 AM
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Holy cow I do not want to pay Asik a full MLE.
Sign and trade him if that's going to be the case. |
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Jul 1 2012, 09:42 AM
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Holy cow I do not want to pay Asik a full MLE. Sign and trade him if that's going to be the case. Agreed. Also, I hope this team includes no UDFA. Why are we dead set on taking on those guys over veterans? Sure, we don't know what they'd do in the NBA but that's because the chances are they're terrible. |
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Jul 1 2012, 10:51 AM
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Jul 1 2012, 11:18 AM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 1-July 06 Member No.: 183 |
Agreed. Also, I hope this team includes no UDFA. Why are we dead set on taking on those guys over veterans? Sure, we don't know what they'd do in the NBA but that's because the chances are they're terrible. Henry Sims over Asik is the one UDFA I really would love to see. Sims D may not be on Asiks level but if he's getting over the MLE then I think Sims is really good cheap replacement that allows you to spend more on guards....I thought Shurna would be nice when I was buzzed last night lol http://www.nba.com/draft/2012/prospects/he...sims/index.html Henry Sims looks like the perfect guy to line up next to Mirotic when he comes over. He's a big 7 footer who's a great passer, I'm shocked he wasn't drafted. |
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Jul 1 2012, 11:48 AM
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Jul 2 2012, 04:59 PM
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Joe Johnson apparently going to NJ for cap space to Atlanta. This also means that the Nets can't afford Howard anymore if DWill re-signs. Time to pick up that phone again if you're the Bulls. They probably aren't anywhere near the top of his list but if LA decides to keep Bynum, it only increases their chances. Dallas was the other spot Howard wanted to go to but I'm pretty sure that was all contingent on Deron following their with him. The Mavs have the capspace for him but Dwight technically isn't a FA. Don't think they can offer a very entertaining trade package either. The Bulls have a good shot at landing Dwight if the GM chooses to send him to the team that offers the best value in return. But that's is then assuming he would sign an extension here if the other teams can't acquire him first.
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Jul 2 2012, 06:14 PM
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Joe Johnson apparently going to NJ for cap space to Atlanta. This also means that the Nets can't afford Howard anymore if DWill re-signs. Time to pick up that phone again if you're the Bulls. They probably aren't anywhere near the top of his list but if LA decides to keep Bynum, it only increases their chances. Dallas was the other spot Howard wanted to go to but I'm pretty sure that was all contingent on Deron following their with him. The Mavs have the capspace for him but Dwight technically isn't a FA. Don't think they can offer a very entertaining trade package either. The Bulls have a good shot at landing Dwight if the GM chooses to send him to the team that offers the best value in return. But that's is then assuming he would sign an extension here if the other teams can't acquire him first. Dwight has made it clear he's only signing in one place. The Bulls probably aren't moving Noah-plus unless that changes. Prepare for Brook Lopez and/or Kris Humphries to be signed and traded there, possibly with Marshon Brooks and/or picks. |
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Jul 3 2012, 07:21 AM
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With Asik pretty much gone (unless Gar-Pax gets super creative), with Dengs wrist injury and Rose pretty much out for the season, a part of me wishes that the Bulls will miss the playoffs and enter next years draft lottery. Now I know Thibs will not allow this but next years NBA draft pool is projected to be very deep. Also, after this season cant the Bulls buy out Boozers deal to provide even more cap space?
I say lets shoot big for the 2013-14 season. The only thing worth watching for this season is the development of Teague. |
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Jul 3 2012, 09:29 AM
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With Asik pretty much gone (unless Gar-Pax gets super creative), with Dengs wrist injury and Rose pretty much out for the season, a part of me wishes that the Bulls will miss the playoffs and enter next years draft lottery. Now I know Thibs will not allow this but next years NBA draft pool is projected to be very deep. Also, after this season cant the Bulls buy out Boozers deal to provide even more cap space? I say lets shoot big for the 2013-14 season. The only thing worth watching for this season is the development of Teague. It's really not projected to be a deep draft at all. After about #6 it's all guys that would have struggled to crack the first round this year and the second tier of freshmen from what is widely considered to be a weak class. |
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Jul 3 2012, 11:54 AM
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Starter Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 994 Joined: 23-March 06 From: Atlanta Member No.: 84 |
With Asik pretty much gone (unless Gar-Pax gets super creative), with Dengs wrist injury and Rose pretty much out for the season, a part of me wishes that the Bulls will miss the playoffs and enter next years draft lottery. Now I know Thibs will not allow this but next years NBA draft pool is projected to be very deep. Also, after this season cant the Bulls buy out Boozers deal to provide even more cap space? I say lets shoot big for the 2013-14 season. The only thing worth watching for this season is the development of Teague. I kind of feel the same way. I mean, I don't want to necessarily shoot for the lottery... but this season is a lost cause. Like you said, I'm more interested in the development of Teague and even Butler. We already know what we're getting with everyone else. |
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