Another option: Draft Beasley, trade for TJ Ford |
Another option: Draft Beasley, trade for TJ Ford |
Jun 5 2008, 07:33 AM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
He's on the market, and is a true PG.
Just a though, injury history concerns me, but he's good. |
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Jun 5 2008, 10:41 AM
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Jun 5 2008, 11:00 AM
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I like the idea better if we pay a little more to acquire Calderon What kind of asking price are we talking about for each guy? Also, I'd be keeping my eye on Baron Davis and his contract situation if I were a GM who wasn't spending 26 hours a day interviewing head coach candidates. |
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Jun 5 2008, 11:48 AM
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I would definitely keep an eye on the Toronto PG situation, they both have solid talent and I can't see them keeping both of them. I have no clue what the asking price is on either of them, I'd think they'd be interested in getting another interior player since Bosh and Nesterovic are their only real interior players, or maybe a scoring wing player. Obviously it's a mute point if we take Rose though (and that sounds like where we're going).
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Jun 5 2008, 12:14 PM
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Jun 5 2008, 12:15 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,914 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 23 |
I would definitely keep an eye on the Toronto PG situation, they both have solid talent and I can't see them keeping both of them. I have no clue what the asking price is on either of them, I'd think they'd be interested in getting another interior player since Bosh and Nesterovic are their only real interior players, or maybe a scoring wing player. Obviously it's a mute point if we take Rose though (and that sounds like where we're going). I think it would be a big mistake to do this draft without weighing the trade options you come up with beforehand. Whichever guy they draft the Bulls will have to make a move, either they're stuck with 2 PG's and 3 SG's if they draft Rose or they're stuck with 3 PF's, 2 SF's, and 2 C's if they draft Beasley. If you can clear out some minutes and some salary while simultaneously filling a hole with a solid deal, then you have to certainly take that into account when you do the draft. |
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Jun 5 2008, 01:13 PM
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I personally think Kirk Hinrich is a better point guard than TJ Ford..
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Jun 5 2008, 02:00 PM
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Jun 5 2008, 02:07 PM
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I think it would be a big mistake to do this draft without weighing the trade options you come up with beforehand. Whichever guy they draft the Bulls will have to make a move, either they're stuck with 2 PG's and 3 SG's if they draft Rose or they're stuck with 3 PF's, 2 SF's, and 2 C's if they draft Beasley. If you can clear out some minutes and some salary while simultaneously filling a hole with a solid deal, then you have to certainly take that into account when you do the draft. I'd agree with that, I think we've both said it before. I don't think the gap between the two prospects is so massive that trade value for the suddenly extraneous guys shouldn't be considered. However, everything we've heard from the Bulls seems to suggest they'll take Rose. |
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Jun 5 2008, 02:28 PM
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I'd agree with that, I think we've both said it before. I don't think the gap between the two prospects is so massive that trade value for the suddenly extraneous guys shouldn't be considered. However, everything we've heard from the Bulls seems to suggest they'll take Rose. I'll third that... In this draft, you absolutely have to take into consideration what types of trade you could get. If you can add a PF through a trade, you take Rose. If you can add a solid, vet PG through a trade, you take Beasley. |
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Jun 5 2008, 04:18 PM
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That's because you don't know a thing about basketball. Ford, when healthy, is a much better POINT GUARD than Hinrich. Hahaha your quite the jokester aren't ya? Don't get all pissy because I disagree. Well I happen to believe that Kirk is better for this team even as a point guard than TJ Ford. Hinrich's worse year compares very similar to Ford's season this year. When Kirk is on top of his game he makes more of an impact on both sides of the ball. TJ had one good year in Toronto where he nearly averaged 8 assists per game, other than that he's been an average basketball player and the stats will show you. I'd rather have Calderon, who actually replaced Ford in the starting lineup this season, but the chances of that are pretty slim. |
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Jun 5 2008, 06:39 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
Hahaha your quite the jokester aren't ya? Don't get all pissy because I disagree. I'd rather have Calderon, who actually replaced Ford in the starting lineup this season, but the chances of that are pretty slim. I'm not kidding... Calderon only got a shot to start because Ford had a debilitating injury to his neck. He obviously had a great season and won the starting spot, but TJ Ford, as a point guard, is much better than Hinrich could ever hope to be. |
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Jun 5 2008, 07:44 PM
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I'm not kidding... Calderon only got a shot to start because Ford had a debilitating injury to his neck. He obviously had a great season and won the starting spot, but TJ Ford, as a point guard, is much better than Hinrich could ever hope to be. Well we agree to disagree. I'm still trying to figure out how my opinion equates to not knowing anything about basketball. What exactly are you basing this off of? They both came out the same year and so far Kirk has averaged about 3 more ppg and nearly identical assist numbers; I don't know how you can classify that as being "Better" but I'll let the genius figure it out. |
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Jun 5 2008, 08:20 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
Well we agree to disagree. I'm still trying to figure out how my opinion equates to not knowing anything about basketball. What exactly are you basing this off of? They both came out the same year and so far Kirk has averaged about 3 more ppg and nearly identical assist numbers; I don't know how you can classify that as being "Better" but I'll let the genius figure it out. I'm basing it off your blind love of Tyrus Thomas and the fact that you think Kirk runs the point better than TJ Ford. That's all. |
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Jun 5 2008, 09:27 PM
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I'm basing it off your blind love of Tyrus Thomas and the fact that you think Kirk runs the point better than TJ Ford. That's all. And why is Tyrus Thomas being factored into this discussion anyways? I get it, you guys use him as a scapegoat whenever I make any sort of comment because you don't know what else to say. Haven't I already made myself clear on where I stand on Tyrus Thomas? Obviously not... When Tyrus came out I had huge hopes for him and my expectations were unrealistically high, but that was also 2 years ago, stop bringing up things that happened years ago.. I'm pretty sure that this year I have been much different in my approach towards talking about Tyrus. At this point in his career he's a good shot blocker average at best defender, but a terrible offensive player. I don't know about you but that doesn't sound like I have as much love as you think I have for him. Do I think Tyrus can be a good basketball player? Yes. Do I think Tyrus will ever be an MVP or a long time all star? NO. So put all of this crap to rest, I'm tired of dealing with it and this is the last time I'm going to talk about it. |
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