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Draft Buzz, only a few days to go |
Jun 20 2009, 11:59 AM
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http://www.nbadraft.net/node/7444
maybe some pieces are starting to come together.... QUOTE Two different sources have indicated to NBADraft.net on Friday that the Pistons have a promise in place to take BJ Mullens if he's available to the them at 15. QUOTE The all time leading scorer in the ACC is considered a surefire contributor (safe pick), which in a weak draft is a valued commodity. Hansbrough may have leapfrogged DeJuan Blair who continues to impress in workouts himself. QUOTE It's looking very likely that if he gets to them the Bulls will take DeJuan Blair. Blair makes a lot of sense as he would work well platooning with the longer and more versatile Joakim Noah at the 4 position. Blair's toughness and ability to rebound would fill a huge void for a team that was 20th in rebounds last year. QUOTE Teams with multiple picks such as Sacramento (23), Oklahoma City (25) and Chicago (26) are all looking to sell their picks according to sources. While three other teams would like to buy picks late in the first round: San Antonio, Detroit and Houston.
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Jun 20 2009, 12:32 PM
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so its detroit who made the promise to mullens. not that i dont like mullens, i just dont like draft promises.
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Jun 21 2009, 01:17 PM
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so its detroit who made the promise to mullens. not that i dont like mullens, i just dont like draft promises. Especially in this kind of draft where there isn't a ton of seperation between prospects and you don't know who is going to fall... I forgot where I read it, but there was a rumor that the Bulls are/were trying to trade 16 and 29 to the Nets for #11, supposedly targeting Gerald Henderson. Seems a bit weird to me, but if that's who they really want they can save a little money by only getting one guy and having one less guaranteed contract. |
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Jun 23 2009, 11:14 AM
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si truth and rumors
QUOTE The Bulls have held trade talks with several teams about packaging the 16th and 26th picks into one higher selection, with two league sources insisting the target is Duke shooting guard Gerald Henderson. wouldnt surprise me they really like henderson. i would be ok with that, henderson is a good player. wouldnt that leave us with a crowded backcourt again? |
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Jun 23 2009, 01:18 PM
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Jun 23 2009, 01:29 PM
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I don't understand Gerald Henderson. If were looking at him, why not just draft Terrence Williams who is the better player all around with a slightly worse shot? I have a feeling it's between Johnson and Henderson I hope it's Johnson. At 257 he's big enough to play the 4 but he's sort of a tweener because he has a nice shot. The thing is, if we get him we almost HAVE to trade one of our front court players. I'm hoping the Bulls pull a semi block buster deal on draft night whether it be the improbable Bosh/Amare deal or something lesser like Kirk Hinrich. We need to start shaping the team in the mold of Derrick Rose. Hinrich is not going to want to come off the bench next year, that's almost guaranteed.
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Jun 23 2009, 01:40 PM
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I don't understand Gerald Henderson. If were looking at him, why not just draft Terrence Williams who is the better player all around with a slightly worse shot? I have a feeling it's between Johnson and Henderson I hope it's Johnson. At 257 he's big enough to play the 4 but he's sort of a tweener because he has a nice shot. The thing is, if we get him we almost HAVE to trade one of our front court players. I'm hoping the Bulls pull a semi block buster deal on draft night whether it be the improbable Bosh/Amare deal or something lesser like Kirk Hinrich. We need to start shaping the team in the mold of Derrick Rose. Hinrich is not going to want to come off the bench next year, that's almost guaranteed. Henderson is better in almost every aspect of basketball than Williams. |
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Jun 23 2009, 02:07 PM
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Henderson is better in almost every aspect of basketball than Williams. Not at all. Williams is a much better rebounder/passer/playmaker and leader than Gerald Henderson. Not too mention he's also taller and will be asked to do the exact same thing Henderson will do which is defend. |
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Jun 23 2009, 02:32 PM
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what if derozan were to fall to 11, would you want him over henderson, williams, and johnson?
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Jun 23 2009, 03:15 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
Not at all. Williams is a much better rebounder/passer/playmaker and leader than Gerald Henderson. Not too mention he's also taller and will be asked to do the exact same thing Henderson will do which is defend. Only because Williams is more athletic. Henderson is much more skilled and an overall better basketball player. Williams is also all of one inch taller than Henderson, so physically they're similar. And part of why Williams rebounded more was the fact that they played him at forward a decent amount. Henderson's numbers were better almost across the board. Henderson is also a much better finisher around the hoop and is able to get to the line, both of which are pretty big problems for the Bulls. Henderson was able to be successful in a half court offense where as Williams wasn't efficient at all in a transition offense. |
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Jun 23 2009, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE Chicago has talked to the Nets, Bobcats and Pacers about swapping No. 16 and No. 26 to get into the lottery. It sounds like the Bulls are down to one potential trade partner in the lottery. Ford today
The Nets are leaning strongly toward keeping their pick at No. 11. And if the Bobcats made a promise to Williams at No. 12, they're out, too. That leaves the Pacers at No. 13. The Pacers have been one of the hardest teams to peg in the draft. DeJuan Blair, Tyler Hansbrough, Eric Maynor, Ty Lawson and Jeff Teague all are on their board right now. If the Bulls want any of those guys -- or the guys the Suns (No. 14) and Pistons (No. 15) are looking at -- they'll have to make the deal. |
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Jun 23 2009, 04:17 PM
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Only because Williams is more athletic. Henderson is much more skilled and an overall better basketball player. Williams is also all of one inch taller than Henderson, so physically they're similar. And part of why Williams rebounded more was the fact that they played him at forward a decent amount. Henderson's numbers were better almost across the board. Henderson is also a much better finisher around the hoop and is able to get to the line, both of which are pretty big problems for the Bulls. Henderson was able to be successful in a half court offense where as Williams wasn't efficient at all in a transition offense. Well wouldn't you agree that none of them are really great additions if in fact Ben Gordon leaves? We could then be one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the league. That's why I'd just go big man and try to look towards a move that either frees up space to resign BG or get somebody that can. |
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Jun 23 2009, 04:27 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
Well wouldn't you agree that none of them are really great additions if in fact Ben Gordon leaves? We could then be one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the league. That's why I'd just go big man and try to look towards a move that either frees up space to resign BG or get somebody that can. I've been saying for a while that my best case scenario draft for the Bulls would be BJ Mullens/Dajuan Blair at 16 and Wayne Ellington at 26. |
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Jun 23 2009, 04:43 PM
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It sounds like we won't take anyone at 26. We are either going to trade that pick or go with a euro player at 26 who will stay overseas.
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Jun 23 2009, 06:15 PM
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I'd rather have Henderson than Williams if it came down to it. Both are pretty good athletes, I guess I'd give a slight edge to Williams there even though their combine numbers were virtually identical. The only other edge that I'd say Williams has is as a distributor, which loses value with a guy like Rose on the roster (Nellie would love Terrence). You could probably argue defense too, though frankly I think some of it is that Williams played with way better defenders (Clark in particular). Henderson has a much better mid-range shot and is generally more efficient overall on offense. Williams has plenty of ability but settles for jumpers a lot more than he should and it adversely affects his shooting percentage.
While I'd take them, both of them are streaky outside shooters at best, making them a less than ideal fit for us. Much like Slav I think Ellington would be a great fit at 26 and allow us to go big at 16. |
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