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ZoomSlowik
post Jun 25 2012, 02:14 PM
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The more scouting videos I watch on Draft Express, the more weird this draft starts to look to me. Every pick after Davis gives you reasons to be reasonably happy as well as reasons to be kind of disappointed. So many somewhat intriguing players with so many flaws.
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post Jun 25 2012, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25 2012, 03:14 PM) *
The more scouting videos I watch on Draft Express, the more weird this draft starts to look to me. Every pick after Davis gives you reasons to be reasonably happy as well as reasons to be kind of disappointed. So many somewhat intriguing players with so many flaws.


Makes you think there will be some stars, it's just terribly difficult to predict which will be.
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post Jun 25 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 25 2012, 04:51 PM) *
Makes you think there will be some stars, it's just terribly difficult to predict which will be.


Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me if someone like Terrence Jones is better than a couple of people that go in the top-5.
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post Jun 25 2012, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25 2012, 06:49 PM) *
Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me if someone like Terrence Jones is better than a couple of people that go in the top-5.


Or Doron Lamb headbang.gif
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post Jun 26 2012, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 24 2012, 02:03 PM) *
I feel Leonard will be the second biggest bust of this draft, behind Drummond.

Plus, we need someone who can become a starting SG, not someone to backup Rose's BFF.


I agree. He screams Euro big man, not NBA big man.
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post Jun 26 2012, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25 2012, 03:14 PM) *
The more scouting videos I watch on Draft Express, the more weird this draft starts to look to me. Every pick after Davis gives you reasons to be reasonably happy as well as reasons to be kind of disappointed. So many somewhat intriguing players with so many flaws.


That means getting the right kids matched with the right coach, and the right system, is bigger than ever.
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post Jun 26 2012, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 26 2012, 07:52 AM) *
I agree. He screams Euro big man, not NBA big man.


How a guy who scores most of his points from post moves is a Euro big man is beyond me
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post Jun 26 2012, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26 2012, 08:50 AM) *
How a guy who scores most of his points from post moves is a Euro big man is beyond me


Pau Gasol...?

But I think it's because "Euro big man" means "Soft" to most people.
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post Jun 26 2012, 09:56 AM
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I don't think of a typical Euro big man possessing the elite athleticism that Leonard has.

I saw a tweet the other day where an NBA assistant GM said, "If Meyers Leonard were black he would be the number 2 pick in the draft"
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post Jun 26 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 26 2012, 10:56 AM) *
I don't think of a typical Euro big man possessing the elite athleticism that Leonard has.

I saw a tweet the other day where an NBA assistant GM said, "If Meyers Leonard were black he would be the number 2 pick in the draft"


Maybe it's my dislike of U of I coloring my vision. Then again, one of my best friends goes to Illinois, talked non-stop about how dreamy she thought Leonard was, then after a few games couldn't stand him, because she said he looked so lazy when he should have been dominating out there.
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Same reason I don't like Austin Rivers in this draft...relied too much on athleticism.

And I might agree with that comment, since I think Drummond will be an epic bust.
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post Jun 26 2012, 10:54 AM
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You cant teach athleticism...I see Leonard as Noah lite. If the Bulls were in a position to grab him and they filled their other holes Id grab him in a heartbeat and let Asik and his butter fingers go elsewhere.
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post Jun 26 2012, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26 2012, 11:54 AM) *
You cant teach athleticism...I see Leonard as Noah lite. If the Bulls were in a position to grab him and they filled their other holes Id grab him in a heartbeat and let Asik and his butter fingers go elsewhere.


While you can't teach athleticism, it's still really hard to teach work ethic.
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post Jun 26 2012, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 26 2012, 12:26 PM) *
While you can't teach athleticism, it's still really hard to teach work ethic.


He says he models his game after Noah, I think if you put him on the same team with Jo then Jos work ethic will rub off on him.
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 26 2012, 11:43 AM) *
Same reason I don't like Austin Rivers in this draft...relied too much on athleticism.


Rivers wasn't in a great situation at Duke last year IMO....Duke was as slow and clumsy as I've seen them in years. I do feel he would be the Bulls pick at #8 if indeed the Raps took Deng for the pick.

If Bryan Colangelo had a clue he would jump at the chance to get Deng for the #8 as Toronto needs another rookie like they need another hole in the head. However- this is the same GM who dismissed Jo Noah and draft picks for Bosh years ago. How he is still employed in Toronto is beyond me.
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (rockren @ Jun 26 2012, 01:23 PM) *
Rivers wasn't in a great situation at Duke last year IMO....Duke was as slow and clumsy as I've seen them in years. I do feel he would be the Bulls pick at #8 if indeed the Raps took Deng for the pick.

If Bryan Colangelo had a clue he would jump at the chance to get Deng for the #8 as Toronto needs another rookie like they need another hole in the head. However- this is the same GM who dismissed Jo Noah and draft picks for Bosh years ago. How he is still employed in Toronto is beyond me.


What is this rumor now?? Just Deng straight up for the #8?? Id like it if we got Calderon back too, then instead of using the MLE on a PG give Brandon Roy a shot.

Based on the nbadraft.net mock I think I'd go with Terrance Ross over anyone else. In the above situation we're not getting Dengs replacement so Ross, a guy that can play the 2 and the 3 would be the guy I go with and hope either him or Butler steps up and can be a good starter.
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