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FromWayDowntown
post May 25 2012, 12:13 PM
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Soooooo........who ya got for Da Bulls?

Do we want to do a Mock Draft?

What do you guys and gals think??
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post May 26 2012, 01:11 PM
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I'd like to see CJ and either Korver or Brewer (I'd prefer Brew) traded this off season(For cap purposes). Maybe packaged for a mid first rounder or sold separately for a couple picks....For the sake of arguement lets say packaged to the Celtics for #21. (and a future pick)

Looking at some mocks I'd go with:

#21 Tony Wroten PG Washington
Thought about going with Tyshawn Taylor here but he seems to be a mental midget. Still wouldnt hate the Taylor pick though....A PG that can create shots for others is what I want

#29 Doron Lamb SG Kentucky
Quite a few options here at SG, I think Lamb might be the best of the bunch. John Jenkins might be more of a Thibs guy with his defensive ability. Would also be ok with Orlando Johnson here... A SG with 3 point range is what im lookin for.

I wanna see Hinrich brought in with the MLE and go it with this squad...

Hinrich/Wroten
Rip/Lamb
Korver/Butler
Boozer/Gibson
Noah/Asik


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post May 29 2012, 12:03 PM
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Definitely need a potential scorer at the 2-guard with one of the picks. To me, you can go one of two routes with that.

One would be to get an elite shooter that doesn't need to dominate the ball and can make people pay when they collapse on Rose (assuming he's his old self when he returns banghead.gif ). Doron Lamb and John Jenkins would definitely fit there as scs mentioned. I like Lamb slightly better because I feel like Jenkins is strictly a catch-and-shoot guy while Lamb has at least some ball-handling ability and is a bit quicker. Both are somewhat one-dimensional though and lack size.

The other is to go with someone that's a bit more well-rounded, a guy that can defend, create his own shot a bit more and still be a threat on the wing. This might be a better fit to take some pressure off Rose and get some insurance in case he isn't quite as explosive attacking the rim.

Unfortunately, I think a lot of those guys will be gone, guys like Dion Waiters (explosive off the dribble, but small and streaky J), Jeremy Lamb (great length and solid mid-range, streaky 3 and inconsistent) and Terrence Ross (great athlete, decent shot, sort of a work in progress). Guys like Austin Rivers and Will Barton might be there, but they're not quite as interesting.

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post May 30 2012, 03:20 PM
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I'd like to see a 2 guard that can get his shot off.
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:20 PM
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Jenkins seems to be a popular guy on the mocks, that is if the Bulls can't move up.
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:46 PM
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Jenkins is interesting, seems like Doron Lamb is definitely a better option but I don't think he'll fall nearly that far. The Bulls need to figure out if moving up in the draft is going to be worth it...not sure if the players are any better at 5-10 than 29. Obviously the odds are against you that low in the round, but it seems like we're looking at a bunch of players that are not distinguishing themselves after the first 2 or 3
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:52 PM
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Some of the names I have read quite commonly:

Doron Lamb, Jeff Taylor, John Jenkins, Tyshawn Taylor

I'm a big fan of Doron Lamb he does a lot of good things on offense that could really help this team off the bench and potentially as a starter down the line.
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 21 2012, 02:52 PM) *
Some of the names I have read quite commonly:

Doron Lamb, Jeff Taylor, John Jenkins, Tyshawn Taylor

I'm a big fan of Doron Lamb he does a lot of good things on offense that could really help this team off the bench and potentially as a starter down the line.


Do you think he'll make it to 29? Would trading up to 5 be too high?

Nice sig btw biggrin.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:55 PM
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Draft side note, root for Jarrod Jones from Ball State to get drafted. He is from my hometown, and a really good kid. He has a shot at going in the end of the second round, but may not get drafted. Europe or the D-League are the most likely for him. He has had workouts in Sacto, Indy, Houston, and a couple of other places.
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21 2012, 01:53 PM) *
Do you think he'll make it to 29? Would trading up to 5 be too high?

Nice sig btw biggrin.gif

DraftExpress currently has Doron Lamb going with the 5th pick of the 2nd round, 35 overall.

NBADraft.net (less credible, but still something) has Lamb to the Bulls at 29.

I think from ~25 and down is where he might realistically fall.
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 21 2012, 02:55 PM) *
DraftExpress currently has Doron Lamb going with the 5th pick of the 2nd round, 35 overall.

NBADraft.net (less credible, but still something) has Lamb to the Bulls at 29.

I think from ~25 and down is where he might realistically fall.


I didn't realize that with the praise he was getting on ESPNU's broadcast of the Chicago Draft Workouts. Keeping that #29 pick might get us a useful player then.

Who could we get at #5 if that trade happens? Harrison Barnes is the hot name, but I'm not sure if he'll be there and I'm not sure if he's worth it.
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21 2012, 03:04 PM) *
I didn't realize that with the praise he was getting on ESPNU's broadcast of the Chicago Draft Workouts. Keeping that #29 pick might get us a useful player then.

Who could we get at #5 if that trade happens? Harrison Barnes is the hot name, but I'm not sure if he'll be there and I'm not sure if he's worth it.

If the Bulls were to get 5 there's a number of ways the draft could fall.

It seems pretty likely that 2-5 ends up being (in an unknown order): Barnes, Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson. Any and all of them would fit with the Bulls to a decent extent, assuming Deng is dealt to acquire the pick. Beal would seem like a somewhat ideal fit next to Rose given his overall offensive game.

However, the entire top of the draft after Anthony Davis seems wildly unpredictable with pundits and talking heads having very little idea of where those 4 players are going to fall between the 2nd and 5th picks.
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21 2012, 03:04 PM) *
I didn't realize that with the praise he was getting on ESPNU's broadcast of the Chicago Draft Workouts. Keeping that #29 pick might get us a useful player then.

Who could we get at #5 if that trade happens? Harrison Barnes is the hot name, but I'm not sure if he'll be there and I'm not sure if he's worth it.


Draft deals are done with the stipulation that the player they want will be there in the draft. Otherwise they don't happen.
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 21 2012, 03:07 PM) *
If the Bulls were to get 5 there's a number of ways the draft could fall.

It seems pretty likely that 2-5 ends up being (in an unknown order): Barnes, Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson. Any and all of them would fit with the Bulls to a decent extent, assuming Deng is dealt to acquire the pick. Beal would seem like a somewhat ideal fit next to Rose given his overall offensive game.

However, the entire top of the draft after Anthony Davis seems wildly unpredictable with pundits and talking heads having very little idea of where those 4 players are going to fall between the 2nd and 5th picks.


How much do we want to draft a PF given that we're somewhat "loaded" there as it is? I know you could simply amnesty Boozer, but PF is the one position I don't mind passing on. If we got a pick like the 10, I still think any team would be crazy not to draft Meyers Leonard (especially with a coach like Thibs who will keep Meyers' head out of his ass). Then you could let go of a guy like Asik who only has limited value as a bench player anyway.

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 21 2012, 03:22 PM) *
Draft deals are done with the stipulation that the player they want will be there in the draft. Otherwise they don't happen.


That only makes too much sense.
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21 2012, 02:53 PM) *
Do you think he'll make it to 29? Would trading up to 5 be too high?

Nice sig btw biggrin.gif



QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21 2012, 03:04 PM) *
I didn't realize that with the praise he was getting on ESPNU's broadcast of the Chicago Draft Workouts. Keeping that #29 pick might get us a useful player then.

Who could we get at #5 if that trade happens? Harrison Barnes is the hot name, but I'm not sure if he'll be there and I'm not sure if he's worth it.



You sir, are thinking of Jeremy Lamb, he's the one that's going in the top 10.
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