Bulls Interested in All-Star Big, And it's not KG |
Bulls Interested in All-Star Big, And it's not KG |
Dec 1 2006, 09:09 PM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-April 06 Member No.: 120 |
The big man in question: 2006 FIBA World Championship MVP Pau Gasol of the Memphis Grizzlies
The story is here: ESPN Pau Gasol Feature According to another website, Chad Ford posted this trade: Bulls Receive: Pau Gasol Grizzlies Receive: Ben Gordon, P.J. Brown, 1st Round Pick Ford said he is unsure if the deal would go down, and the Boston Celtics are also interested. If I'm the Bulls I would not mind giving up Gordon for a legitimate inside scorer. His career numbers are 19/8/3/2. The only thing I would hesitate to give up is the first round pick, but Gasol could potentially open up so many things for other players, specifically Deng and Hinrich. Sefolosha would get some playing time, and Ben Wallace would have the freedom to patrol on the weakside. What do you guys think? Also, can we trade the pick to this year's draft? Technically its not our pick its the Knick's, we only have the right to swap selections with them, not the right to the pick itself. Is that correct, or am I wrong? |
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Dec 1 2006, 09:59 PM
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Leading Scorer Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 5-April 06 Member No.: 99 |
no way.
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Dec 1 2006, 10:04 PM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-April 06 Member No.: 120 |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:05 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
I wouldnt give up that pick (NY's pick) for ANYBODY! Yes I said anybody. We have a legitimate shot at snabbing either Oden, Durant, or Wright in this years draft and ALL of those players I mention have superstar potential and are all low post scorers. I wouldnt trade that pick for anything I just want to see how New Yorks season will turn out before I trade that pick. If I were to trade for Gasol, I would go..
Grizzlies Recieve: Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni, PJ Brown Bulls Recieve: Pau Gasol and filler Then again Memphis probably wouldnt do that. |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:05 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:11 PM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-April 06 Member No.: 120 |
I wouldnt give up that pick (NY's pick) for ANYBODY! Yes I said anybody. We have a legitimate shot at snabbing either Oden, Durant, or Wright in this years draft and ALL of those players I mention have superstar potential and are all low post scorers. I wouldnt trade that pick for anything I just want to see how New Yorks season will turn out before I trade that pick. If I were to trade for Gasol, I would go.. Grizzlies Recieve: Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni, PJ Brown Bulls Recieve: Pau Gasol and filler Then again Memphis probably wouldnt do that. Durant is not a low post scorer, he's basically a 6-10 shooting guard/small forward, but his talent is out of this world, but the numbers he's putting up in college seem to prove that he will be that superstar everyone expects him to be. Same with Wright, who does play down low, but it will take him more time. Anyway, I'm still not sure whether the first round pick in 2007 can be given away. We'd be trading away the right to swap picks, but wouldn't that still leave Memphis with only one pick or would we be picking for them? The original trade was just Chad Ford's report but its not the only possibility if the Bulls are interested. Gordon, Nocioni, and Brown for Gasol is reasonable as well as some possibilities with Sweetney and those second round picks. The main thing to remember is that the Grizzlies want to dump salary and get plenty of young talent. |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:13 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
I think people overate Gasol sometimes, certainly he is a good player but he has never been a double-double guy and has had his issues with injuries. IMO, he isnt a dominate player or a go to guy. He is just a very talented individual that does his work like Nocioni. He is tall, im all for Gasol but just not for either one of our rooks or that pick.
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Dec 1 2006, 10:22 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
I think people overate Gasol sometimes, certainly he is a good player but he has never been a double-double guy and has had his issues with injuries. IMO, he isnt a dominate player or a go to guy. He is just a very talented individual that does his work like Nocioni. He is tall, im all for Gasol but just not for either one of our rooks or that pick. ??? Pau Gasol is the epitome of a go-to-guy. Have you even looked at his season splits? The only season he missed a significant amout of games was 04-05 when he "only" played 56 games. In his other seasons, 82, 82, 78, 80. 18.5 ppg and 8.4 rpg are fantastic numbers. Last year he averaged over 20 ppg. He's just coming into his own as a PF in the NBA and the Bulls are a much better team with Gasol. Duhon Hinrich Deng Gasol Wallace WOW. He's also a 72% FT shooter and that's not bad for a big man. He would tremendously help the Bulls in those close games, and he is the finished we've been missing. |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:25 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,914 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 23 |
The only thing that would slow me down on making that deal right now is the Knick's pick. If the Knicks finish with one of the worst 3-4 records in the league, then I want that pick. If the Knicks keep playing non-terrible, then I would vastly prefer that deal. That would be an incredible deal in fact.
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Dec 1 2006, 10:40 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
??? Pau Gasol is the epitome of a go-to-guy. Have you even looked at his season splits? The only season he missed a significant amout of games was 04-05 when he "only" played 56 games. In his other seasons, 82, 82, 78, 80. 18.5 ppg and 8.4 rpg are fantastic numbers. Last year he averaged over 20 ppg. He's just coming into his own as a PF in the NBA and the Bulls are a much better team with Gasol. Duhon Hinrich Deng Gasol Wallace WOW. He's also a 72% FT shooter and that's not bad for a big man. He would tremendously help the Bulls in those close games, and he is the finished we've been missing. Back too back devistating ok maybe not devistating but dissapointing injuries in back to back seasons could be a problem. Maybe a fluke, nobody knows. Like I said he is a good player but he isnt someone you throw a ton of talent at just to get. You save that for either a guy like Oden or a guy like Bosh, Howard, Red, Arenas etc.. I dont think you can put Gasol as a top notch superstar in this league. His numbers speak for themselves, there solid but Oden or someone else can develop into something better than that. Now granted I know Oden's success isnt a given, we dont even know if he will go out for the draft at season's end but He is a guy that you CANT miss (like a Lebron James). |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:51 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
Back too back devistating ok maybe not devistating but dissapointing injuries in back to back seasons could be a problem. Maybe a fluke, nobody knows. Like I said he is a good player but he isnt someone you throw a ton of talent at just to get. You save that for either a guy like Oden or a guy like Bosh, Howard, Red, Arenas etc.. I dont think you can put Gasol as a top notch superstar in this league. His numbers speak for themselves, there solid but Oden or someone else can develop into something better than that. Now granted I know Oden's success isnt a given, we dont even know if he will go out for the draft at season's end but He is a guy that you CANT miss (like a Lebron James). I highly disagree. There is no such thing as a "cant miss" anymore. Saying that about Oden with his current injury is silly. But then again, you were in favor of Thomas over Aldridge, so you probably see potential of a superstar individual instead of a possible NBA Championship. |
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Dec 1 2006, 10:58 PM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 18 |
I'm not THAT up on the NBA, but I think have a pretty good idea about it, and I say you do that deal any day of the week.
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Dec 1 2006, 11:12 PM
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Skills Competitor Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 1,675 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 52 |
I hate to rain on anyones parade, but their GM just came out and said he absolutely was not going to trade Gasol this season...
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Dec 1 2006, 11:14 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
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Dec 2 2006, 12:32 AM
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