The Kobe Thread, for all the latest |
The Kobe Thread, for all the latest |
Oct 31 2007, 09:07 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
I just don't want to get into such a deep hole early if nothing happens. I mean the players HAVE to be thinking about being traded even during the game, I think it showed early in the game today. If we keep bringing up rumors or proposed deals maybe a guy like Deng or Gordon will completely suck and LA won't want either one anymore. I'd like to know now or never if this deal is going to happen.
If I were Pax if this deal doesn't get completed by Sunday night I'd tell the team there will be no Kobe trades atleast until the deadline to relieve some stress on their minds. Although I still think something gets done tomorrow afternoon |
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Oct 31 2007, 09:23 PM
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10 Day Contract Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 28-September 07 Member No.: 1,904 |
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Oct 31 2007, 09:34 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
I've recreated a thread so that we can keep all the recent talks going in one thread. The other one was first off a initial report so this one can start with everything recent until the day he is traded, hopefully soon.
Cuban says NO! QUOTE October 31, 2007 - 10:44 pm ESPN - During Wednesday night's game against the Cleveland Cavaliers , Mavs' owner Mark Cuban said that the team is not pursuing a trade for the Los Angeles Lakers star. "We haven't talked to them," Cuban told ESPN's Lisa Salters during a sideline interview. "It's not gonna happen. We've got a great squad. We like it." Cuban was asked if the team has any interest at all in Bryant. "We're always looking for bargains, but I don't think they're going to give us any bargains," he said. According to ESPN's Ric Bucher the Lakers are now actively looking to move the nine-time All-Star. Initial trade that fell through QUOTE October 31, 2007 - 6:21 pm ESPN - ESPN is reporting that a three-way trade involving the Lakers, Bulls and Kings is now dead but has been discussed. The Lakers would acquire Ron Artest and Ben Wallace; the Kings would acquire Ben Gordon and P.J. Brown, while the Bulls would get Kobe Bryant. Keeping everyone up to date on all the latest! |
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Oct 31 2007, 09:37 PM
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Bench Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 21-April 06 Member No.: 106 |
Probably could just merge this with the thread below it...do we have admins around here?
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Oct 31 2007, 09:45 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
This is for all the latest info. I thought we may need a more current thread now that everyone knows a trade is likely.
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Oct 31 2007, 10:28 PM
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Skills Competitor Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 1,675 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 52 |
why were they screwing around trying to make this trade work while they should have been talking to Deng's agent?
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Oct 31 2007, 11:23 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
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Oct 31 2007, 11:49 PM
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Skills Competitor Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 1,675 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 52 |
the deadline to trade for kobe wasn't tonight... the deadline for keeping deng at a somewhat reasonable price was.
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Nov 1 2007, 01:56 AM
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Starter Group: Global Moderators Posts: 934 Joined: 3-April 06 Member No.: 98 |
OK i merged these topics bc they are covering the exact same thing, but I think Kobe-gate has gotten big enough that multiple topics on the subject are acceptable at this point
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Nov 1 2007, 01:20 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
Dan Bernstein is talking about this right now. I'll try to keep up.
He still says "Kobe Bryant to become a Bull" by tomorrow afternoon still a 90% possibility. He says Kobe is in charge of this. Deals are talked about that are put in front of Kobe and he has rejected them all... they have already agreed on deals and Kobe has turned them down. The player mentioned the most by "people who know what's going on" is Kirk Hinrich. Kirk is young, desirable, defends, and under contract for a reasonable amount. Kobe knows that Kirk dominates the ball, moreso than any other Bull (amount of time on shotclock with ball in hands, not necessarily shots). The Deng stuff is purely Bryant. The Bulls are more than willing to deal Deng but Bryant refuses to move without Deng staying in Chicago. All names are on the table. Kobe wants to be a Bull, Bulls want Kobe, Kobe wants to be a Bull entirely on his own terms. There are a lot of people who want this deal to get done, but its incredibly complicated involving a 3rd team. A deal proposed yesterday would have involved a player going to the Lakers who was then sent to the Cavaliers (Bibby to the Cavs). Paxson stayed home yesterday to work on this deal, but the game actually being played delayed negotiations. Until John Paxson says this thing is over, it is very active right now. This is from Bernstein, who has very reliable connections with the Bulls. |
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Nov 1 2007, 02:15 PM
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
I wonder if the lack movement on a contract extention was the sign we all should have been looking for that Pax was willing to deal Ben and/or Deng? That makes a lot more sense.
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Nov 1 2007, 02:33 PM
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I recently heard the possibility of a Kirk and Ben Wallace package...
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Nov 1 2007, 02:35 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
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Nov 1 2007, 02:45 PM
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Superstar Group: Members Posts: 3,150 Joined: 20-March 06 Member No.: 73 |
Hmm well Pax did what I thought he should, he put these talks to rest.
QUOTE Chicago Tribune - Chicago general manager John Paxson put an end to more than a week of feverish speculation, declaring, "There's not a deal to be done" in the Kobe Bryant sweepstakes following Thursday's practice. "It's time to put it to rest," Paxson said. Paxson acknowledged having several conversations with the Lakers regarding Bryant but refused to divulge specifics. It's known that the Bulls engaged in multiple talks trying to engineer three-team trades, but nothing ever got close, Paxson said. Paxson refused to say his team was distracted by the daily rumors regarding the incident, saying merely that the Bulls "played poorly" in Wednesday's season-opening loss the Nets. Though it could be likely that he is just saying this just to say it.. There has been so many rumors over the last 24 hours, maybe its his way of telling Kobe "Accept any trade or screw you" because of his trade clause Kobe doesn't want to lose Deng to the Lakers. I wish we got Kobe but of course nothing is going to happen... |
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Nov 1 2007, 03:24 PM
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NBDL Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 25-March 06 Member No.: 87 |
John Paxon will be remembered in one of two ways
1) Genius.... he skipped on Kobe and the Bulls core led them to a championship 2) The GM who could have traded for the Next Jordan.... didnt.... and kept a mediocre team together that ultimately didnt have a superstar and never won a title I'll be honest - I think there is a greater chance the latter of the two will happen. |
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