Joakim Noah, A positive perspective Options

[sport1016]

What we all forget is that a long time ago paxson said something to the effect of "the answer to our low post scoring isn't available in this draft outside of Greg Oden"

This pick falls in line with our WIN NOW mode.

Hawes could've been the pick if we are waiting to compete for a title 2-3 more years when TT matures and deng/gordon/hinrich get closer to their primes

But When we signed Ben Wallace, we went into win now mode.

Spencer Hawes would not have been our low post scoring savior next year. He is skilled, but having both inexperience AND a lack of athleticism against him he is going to have a hell of an adjustment.

Noah will be ready to back up at pf and c immediately. He can be a key reserve on a contender next year.

Paxson knows we still need a post scorer, he even admitted it in his post pick interview on ESPN.

So which is better for win now mode?
-Bring in hawes as your post scorer and get a reliable backup 4/5 in FA or via trade
-Sign veteran post player as noah's bball IQ and defense/rebounding will translate into being a reliable backup 4/5 immediately.

Win now mode? No question which way to go. If we need a post scorer to win it all in the next 2 years, that guy wasnt gonna be hawes. He might be Vlade Divac/Brad Miller in 4 years, but how does that help?

[Steve9347]

I'm happy. Noah will replace Wallace once Wallace is gone. I think you're right that this makes us more competitive now. I really think we'll try and address low post scoring with the second round picks. I really think we're going to try and get "Big Baby" from LSU by trading Duhon and a 2nd round pick sometime in the late 1st round or 2nd round.

Either way, I think we are going to trade Nocioni and Duhon or some combination of players to get another PF that can score.

I happy with this pick especially since there really were not many options besides Noah and Hawes left on the board.

[dasox24]

Count me in with those who are fine with the Noah pick. He wasn't my first choice, but I'm not gonna freak out about it. I think he'll be one helluva player defensively and like Steve said, he'll take over for Wallace when Wallace is gone. This could even open up trading TT (and others) for a scoring PF, as I think TT would have more trade value than Noah since TT has at least showed a glimpse of being a star in this league.

[ChicagoBullsMadi...]

I'm happy. Noah will replace Wallace once Wallace is gone. I think you're right that this makes us more competitive now. I really think we'll try and address low post scoring with the second round picks. I really think we're going to try and get "Big Baby" from LSU by trading Duhon and a 2nd round pick sometime in the late 1st round or 2nd round.

Either way, I think we are going to trade Nocioni and Duhon or some combination of players to get another PF that can score.

I happy with this pick especially since there really were not many options besides Noah and Hawes left on the board.

hell no! im fine with all this as long as we dont trade TT! TT is is our future pf

[GreatScott82]

Noah will be Wallace's back up for the next few seasons. TT will be our starting PF by the time the 2008 season is finished.

But for now Pax will sign a veteran PF who can score down low.

[GreatScott82]

Well this is our guy.....

Noah

[dasox24]

Well this is our guy.....

Noah

Oh god, if we win an NBA Championship, I think Skiles needs to let it be known that there will be none of that during the postgame.

[SoxFan1]

Well this is our guy.....

Noah

Oh god.

[heirdog]

That's after playing an entire game and at the end of a long season...the man has energy to burn. I love the pick for where we were picking. For all those who expect him to fill out and become a big center, its never gonna happen. We are an up tempo team and he fits right in. Hawes is not the answer and you draft BPA as opposed to need. He would have been our pick at 2 last year if he had come out so TT is the bonus. So it would be Noah and Hawes or TT and Noah. I much prefer the latter.

[SoxFan1]

That's after playing an entire game and at the end of a long season...the man has energy to burn. I love the pick for where we were picking. For all those who expect him to fill out and become a big center, its never gonna happen. We are an up tempo team and he fits right in. Hawes is not the answer and you draft BPA as opposed to need. He would have been our pick at 2 last year if he had come out so TT is the bonus. So it would be Noah and Hawes or TT and Noah. I much prefer the latter.

None of that logic makes sense at all.

[Chisoxfn]

The thing I have to remind myself is that the Bulls play an up tempo game and I don't see how Hawes fits into that game. Noah on the other hand completely fits into there style of play.

Jermaine O'Neal, KG, Kobe are all guys that fit into it. Heck, I think you could make a case that Paul Gasol may not have even fit into the high stempo offense the Bulls tend to run (ie the squad loves to get out on the go in fast breaks, although we also have fantastic ball movement and a good half court offense).

[SoxFan1]

The thing I have to remind myself is that the Bulls play an up tempo game and I don't see how Hawes fits into that game. Noah on the other hand completely fits into there style of play.

Jermaine O'Neal, KG, Kobe are all guys that fit into it. Heck, I think you could make a case that Paul Gasol may not have even fit into the high stempo offense the Bulls tend to run (ie the squad loves to get out on the go in fast breaks, although we also have fantastic ball movement and a good half court offense).

My god, we flip flop like John Kerry. We want low post scoring, but we play uptempto. And when we play uptempo and get no points in the pain, we want low post scoring.

[Bullseye]

Please tell me that Noah will at least be getting a haircut.

[dasox24]

The thing I have to remind myself is that the Bulls play an up tempo game and I don't see how Hawes fits into that game. Noah on the other hand completely fits into there style of play.

Jermaine O'Neal, KG, Kobe are all guys that fit into it. Heck, I think you could make a case that Paul Gasol may not have even fit into the high stempo offense the Bulls tend to run (ie the squad loves to get out on the go in fast breaks, although we also have fantastic ball movement and a good half court offense).

That's true about Gasol. He is pretty slow up and down the court, which is why there was talk in Memphis that the Grizz might take Noah. Then, they would have traded Gasol b/c Iavaroni is going to install that Suns-style offense, which Gasol doesn't really fit.

[heirdog]

None of that logic makes sense at all.

Then you sir, need to get some sleep so you can think clearly. Let me paraphrase:

Noah a better player than Hawes so Noah = BPA
Noah no real low post moves but fits our current defensive-minded system: hustle, length, rebounding, blocking shots
Pax loved Noah last year and he would likely have been our pick, thus no TT pick last year
We get Noah this year so net result: Noah + TT

If we take Noah last year, then he is not here this draft and we likely take Hawes.