 For the Tyson Chandler Haters...., every1 read me |
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 May 5 2006, 12:04 AM
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10 Day Contract  Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 30-April 06 From: A-Town/Huskie Country Member No.: 127  |
QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 3 2006, 09:25 AM) So why does every1 hate Chandler?? Part of this is Paxson's fault for giving a player who has never lived up to potential a HUGE contract, but my problem with Tyson is he has stone hands, can't shoot or score points, takes stupid fouls, is too weak to guard the tough inside players, and isn't consistent enough getting rebounds and blocks. Oh, and we gave up Elton Brand (yes, Krause's fault, but doesn't change the fact) to get him. Other than that, he's fine. |
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May 5 2006, 04:00 PM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 29-April 06 From: Chicago, IL. Member No.: 121 |
QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 3 2006, 09:25 AM) So why does every1 hate Chandler?? Chandler was playing like this years before... and no one was complaining... so why does every1 hate him?.... Oh wait i know, its cuz he got that big contract... I bet when every1 heard that Chandler got a 60+ million dollar contract no one was like "WWOOOaahhh , why are we paying him ths much??? Pax u should be fired!!!!" Actually, i bet there where fans out there that didnt even care he's getting this much money... as long as the bulls had him.... And now that Chandler has money, most people cant ever see him playing well anymore... It seems that everything good that TC does now, it doesnt matter... However, everything that Chandler does bad, it seems like it gets blown up... Just because he's getting paid all of the money, people say "this guy doesnt deserve 10 mil a year!" As far as work ethic goes.... is it bad or good?? wait, the guy has been in the league for like 10 years now and hasnt improved right??... Well people forget a lot of reasons why the guy hasnt gotten better.... - Do u guys remember the year when Chandler came in and was dominating the game and averaging like 15 boards or something, and then boooom!!! he suffered from a back injury..... He tried coming back, played some games here and there, and suffered a back injury again and was done of the year.... Well, Chandler didnt work on his game that year as much as he wanted, he had to focused on getting his back "right".... and he did... And every1 in the Bulls organization was proud of him that he had work hard over the summer... -So the guy hadnt play in like forever, he comes back next year, and has to get used to the game again... he gets off to an ok start, but then gets back on track and has an amazing year, averaging 9.7 boards... I bet every1 was saying, wow, this guy looks like he's gonna be the next Ben Wallace... he plays w/ energy and passion... This is awesome!! -So the guy gets married gets a new contract, doesnt really practice on his game anymore... He probably took some advice from his agent to take it e z... But im w/ a lot of u guys, I think he took it just a lil bit too e z..... So next he gets his contract, and finally has the "go" to start practicing... and what happens?... He has a breathing problem, and the Bulls tell him to relax, and lets see if it goes away... Anyways, in my book, Chandler work ethic isnt bad at all... Just wait till this summer, i bet he'll work hard... he has no excuse this time... And he even said it himself "this is going to my hardest working summer ever".... Yay Chandler!  Just wait till he gets big men around him, like the year before.... his game will change for the better... And as far as how Chandlers offense has regressed....... BLAME it all on Skiles and Paxson... they have taken all his confidence away... Theyve been saying it for a while now..."We're not expecting anything from Chandler in the offensive end"..... In other words, U suck Tyson, and we dont trust u, and dont expect u take or make any shots... ANy one notice that when Bill Cartwright was here, Chandler had games when he scored over 20 points??!!.... Now if that happens, that would seem like we won a championship.... Even if chandler scores 10+ points, it seems like a miracle... Wait till we get other bigs and Chandler will be getting more offensive boards and more tip ins... more garbage points.... Chandler will be alright next year, so stop hatin so much... Thanks  I love it!!! I agree that it's beautifully written! I do agree that Chandler is being over paid. I don't really like that. In the thread someone also posted about Eddy Curry helping him out and I think that is where the problems comes in. He's a good player, but he needs backup. For example, Sweetney doesn't really play much. He also gets into trouble. Harrington..I don't know.. and Schenscher is just starting off with the Bulls.. maybe he is under too much pressure. I think he knows people are talking.. I don't know. I just hopes he better himself and I don't like that he gets paid so much. There are better players that obviously get less money. Chandler also doesn't seem like a confident player and I guess he lets players get to him. Maybe that explains the fouls. Someone should work on that. I still have hope. |
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May 6 2006, 07:01 PM
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10 Day Contract Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 14-March 06 From: 78666 Member No.: 54 |
The main problem with Tyson is that he is way, way too hard on himself. Look at his body language every time he commits a foul, turns the ball over or anything negative. His emotions can get the better of him. He has to learn to reign in the negativity and turn it around.
Probably some tapes of seeing how Tim Duncan does it will help him out. |
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May 6 2006, 10:50 PM
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Bench Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 27 |
Playoff numbers:
4.5 rpg, 0.3 bpg, 3.9 ppg, 4.83 fouls per game 'Nough said. |
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May 7 2006, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 6 2006, 10:43 PM) Playoff numbers: 4.5 rpg, 0.3 bpg, 3.9 ppg, 4.83 fouls per game 'Nough said. Going up against the most dominant player in the league.... 'Nough said |
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May 7 2006, 10:40 AM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 29-April 06 From: Chicago, IL. Member No.: 121 |
QUOTE (FromWayDowntown @ May 6 2006, 06:54 PM) The main problem with Tyson is that he is way, way too hard on himself. Look at his body language every time he commits a foul, turns the ball over or anything negative. His emotions can get the better of him. He has to learn to reign in the negativity and turn it around. Probably some tapes of seeing how Tim Duncan does it will help him out. Good point! |
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May 7 2006, 02:06 PM
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Bench Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 27 |
QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 7 2006, 09:42 AM) Going up against the most dominant player in the league.... 'Nough said I can't stand that excuse...This isn't even the shaq of old, our lack of a frontcourt made him look a lot better. Wanna bet nenad krstic has a much better series? |
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May 7 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7 2006, 01:59 PM) I can't stand that excuse...This isn't even the shaq of old, our lack of a frontcourt made him look a lot better. Wanna bet nenad krstic has a much better series? Nenad Krstic is the freaking man. |
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May 7 2006, 03:03 PM
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Cant stand that excuse???
Well, of course Shaq isnt as good as he used to be... But he is a guy that teams still have to focus on and have to double team him when he gets down in the paint.... He still demands double teams... right? If u watch him play, Shaq is still a very dangerous player... If u notice during the playoffs... When Chandler was not in foul trouble and guarding shaq, Scott Skiles would take out Chandler a lot of times when Shaq went on to the bench... And then skiles would bring him back to the court when Shaq returned to the court.... So yes Chandler was guarding Shaq a lot... That being said... Chandler could not leave shaq open.... So he couldnt do what he usually does when hes usually out there in the paint... Chandler could barely help out and get some weak side shots blocked because he had to stick w/ Shaq all the time... Do u know what happens when Shaq is open?? Shaq has GREAT hands, the guy can catch almost anything... All a player has to do is throw it up there, and Shaq will just grab it and dunk it.... So that explains why his Blocked shots per game were low in this series... If Chandler was used more as a help out defender, instead of the guy who had to guard shaq all the time, i guarantee you his stats would be better... His blks would be higher and so would his rebounds.... Please dont just look at stats in ONE SERIES.... look at the season as a whole.... And u said that if i wanted to bet that Nenad will have a better series than Chandler.... Why would you say that?? Is Nenad going to guard Shaq most of the time??? I dont think so... i think that Jason Collins has to do that... And Nenad is a by far a better offensive player than Chandler... no argument there... there no doubt in my mind that he will have some pretty offensive numbers....But basketball isnt just all about one side of the court, its also about defending, and rebounding... which is something that Chandler is better at then Nenad Krstic... But overall, you cant really bring up Nenad when he's playing as PF instead of C like Chandler did against Shaq... if nenad had to guard Shaq all series long... Shaq would get everything he wants from Nenad... theres a good chance Nenad would be in foul trouble all the time unless he lets Shaq back down all day and Dunk it ... |
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May 7 2006, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 7 2006, 09:42 AM) Going up against the most dominant player in the league.... 'Nough said Shaq was in foul trouble half the series...he wasnt playing against shaq all that much. Quit making excuses for Chandler. |
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May 7 2006, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (The Dude Abides @ May 7 2006, 09:49 PM) Shaq was in foul trouble half the series...he wasnt playing against shaq all that much. Quit making excuses for Chandler. Yeah, both Chandler and Shaq got a lot into foul trouble.... but like i said, Scott took Chandler out a lot of times when Shaq went to the bench..... and saved him up until Shaq came out back on the court... Not everytime, but most of the time.... so yeah he was going up against Shaq most of the time...Yes, Chandler did have a horrible series, the stats dont lie... But im just a little bit sick of hearing people say that Chandler sucks soo much and should be traded... just because of this series.... Look at Chandler's regular season numbers, not the playoff numbers when he's going up against Shaq... I gurantee you Chandler is a very important piece to this team. Theres a reason why the guy got paid soo much money... just wait till we have a better front court, he will be better, and be more of a difference maker out there on the court... Just be patient and wait till next year... When he has his head in the game, he's a heck of a player... But yeah, right now, he looks like an overpaid player, no doubt. And it sucks too because this is now becoming a league where you have to overpay players just because of their height... But wait till we have a better front court... he will be able to utilize his abilities more, and will be a very important player in this team.... just as he was last year.... |
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May 8 2006, 10:45 AM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 25 |
QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 7 2006, 10:35 PM) Yeah, both Chandler and Shaq got a lot into foul trouble.... but like i said, Scott took Chandler out a lot of times when Shaq went to the bench..... and saved him up until Shaq came out back on the court... Not everytime, but most of the time.... so yeah he was going up against Shaq most of the time...Yes, Chandler did have a horrible series, the stats dont lie... But im just a little bit sick of hearing people say that Chandler sucks soo much and should be traded... just because of this series.... Look at Chandler's regular season numbers, not the playoff numbers when he's going up against Shaq... I gurantee you Chandler is a very important piece to this team. Theres a reason why the guy got paid soo much money... just wait till we have a better front court, he will be better, and be more of a difference maker out there on the court... Just be patient and wait till next year... When he has his head in the game, he's a heck of a player... But yeah, right now, he looks like an overpaid player, no doubt. And it sucks too because this is now becoming a league where you have to overpay players just because of their height... But wait till we have a better front court... he will be able to utilize his abilities more, and will be a very important player in this team.... just as he was last year.... Well Chandler is a great fouler and Skiles probably thought, "Well if he hits him hard enough, maybe Shaq will get mad, throw a swing and get suspended." We all know Chandler's good for ----. |
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May 9 2006, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ May 7 2006, 02:56 PM) And u said that if i wanted to bet that Nenad will have a better series than Chandler.... Why would you say that?? Is Nenad going to guard Shaq most of the time??? I dont think so... i think that Jason Collins has to do that... And Nenad is a by far a better offensive player than Chandler... no argument there... there no doubt in my mind that he will have some pretty offensive numbers....But basketball isnt just all about one side of the court, its also about defending, and rebounding... which is something that Chandler is better at then Nenad Krstic... But overall, you cant really bring up Nenad when he's playing as PF instead of C like Chandler did against Shaq... if nenad had to guard Shaq all series long... Shaq would get everything he wants from Nenad... theres a good chance Nenad would be in foul trouble all the time unless he lets Shaq back down all day and Dunk it ... Very good point. But my point still stands that tyson was worthless in the playoffs. |
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May 9 2006, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 9 2006, 12:52 AM) Very good point. But my point still stands that tyson was worthless in the playoffs. Yes, Chandler didnt do much this sereis... the stats dont lie..... |
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May 10 2006, 01:07 AM
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I wasn't expecting much from the Bulls as a whole this year, and they pretty much finished around where I thought they would. I expected Chandler to do much much better, but the sky isn't falling with him. I dont think this team will be worse off if they give him next year to do something. I also may be the only person with confidence that Chandler could score 10-12 ppg, including Chandler himself. There's no excuse for a player with his size and athleticism to not be able to score that much on garbage buckets alone. This offseason is particularly huge for Chandler out of any Bulls player. I think people would be far more disappointed if Chandler still couldn't catch a ball next year than there would be people upset that Gordon still can't dribble.
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