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posted: Monday, June 25, 2007 | Feedback | Print Entry
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Are the Boston Celtics the key to moving Kevin Garnett to L.A.?
The Los Angeles Times reported Monday that the Lakers were in discussions with the Minnesota Timberwolves about a trade that would send Garnett to the Lakers. The trade also would involve the Indiana Pacers and possibly a fourth team.
After speaking with a league source, I think the deal has some legs, though it doesn't appear imminent.
According to the source, the key to completing the deal is finding a fourth team that would (a) take Jermaine O'Neal and ( send the Timberwolves enough pieces to complete the deal.
Despite reports to the contrary, the Celtics are balking at including the player the Timberwolves want in the deal -- Al Jefferson. According to a different league source, if Minnesota insists on Jefferson, it's a deal killer for Boston.
However, the deal could work without Jefferson, if Minnesota lowered its sights a little.
For instance, here's one scenario that could work:
The Wolves send Kevin Garnett and Marko Jaric to the Lakers.
The Lakers send Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum to the Pacers and the No. 19 pick to the Wolves.
The Pacers send O'Neal to the Celtics.
The Celtics send the No. 5 pick, Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green and Sebastian Telfair to Minnesota.
Here's what that trade looks like in the Trade Machine, keeping in mind that there also will be draft picks involved.
The deal seems as though it probably would work for the Lakers, Pacers and Celtics.
The Lakers would get the guy they want to pair with Kobe in KG. Surely that would end any talk of a Kobe trade this summer.
The Pacers would get the two guys they want in exchange for O'Neal in Odom and Bynum. They've been waiting patiently for a straight-up swap with L.A. for weeks involving those three players (and a draft pick).
The Celtics would get another star quality player to pair with Paul Pierce without having to give up Jefferson.
But is it enough for Minnesota? That's the question.
The deal would give the Wolves more than $20 million in cap relief next summer and two additional picks in this year's draft. It also would give them two young prospects in Green and Telfair.
It might, however, fall a little short for Minnesota in the talent department. Perhaps the Wolves would bite if another young player or future draft pick were included.
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posted: Monday, June 25, 2007 | Feedback | Print Entry
filed under: Insider NBA
Are the Boston Celtics the key to moving Kevin Garnett to L.A.?
The Los Angeles Times reported Monday that the Lakers were in discussions with the Minnesota Timberwolves about a trade that would send Garnett to the Lakers. The trade also would involve the Indiana Pacers and possibly a fourth team.
After speaking with a league source, I think the deal has some legs, though it doesn't appear imminent.
According to the source, the key to completing the deal is finding a fourth team that would (a) take Jermaine O'Neal and ( send the Timberwolves enough pieces to complete the deal.
Despite reports to the contrary, the Celtics are balking at including the player the Timberwolves want in the deal -- Al Jefferson. According to a different league source, if Minnesota insists on Jefferson, it's a deal killer for Boston.
However, the deal could work without Jefferson, if Minnesota lowered its sights a little.
For instance, here's one scenario that could work:
The Wolves send Kevin Garnett and Marko Jaric to the Lakers.
The Lakers send Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum to the Pacers and the No. 19 pick to the Wolves.
The Pacers send O'Neal to the Celtics.
The Celtics send the No. 5 pick, Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green and Sebastian Telfair to Minnesota.
Here's what that trade looks like in the Trade Machine, keeping in mind that there also will be draft picks involved.
The deal seems as though it probably would work for the Lakers, Pacers and Celtics.
The Lakers would get the guy they want to pair with Kobe in KG. Surely that would end any talk of a Kobe trade this summer.
The Pacers would get the two guys they want in exchange for O'Neal in Odom and Bynum. They've been waiting patiently for a straight-up swap with L.A. for weeks involving those three players (and a draft pick).
The Celtics would get another star quality player to pair with Paul Pierce without having to give up Jefferson.
But is it enough for Minnesota? That's the question.
The deal would give the Wolves more than $20 million in cap relief next summer and two additional picks in this year's draft. It also would give them two young prospects in Green and Telfair.
It might, however, fall a little short for Minnesota in the talent department. Perhaps the Wolves would bite if another young player or future draft pick were included.
ESPN Conversation
Here is how I interpret this: The Pacers want to move J Oneal for Bynum and Odom. Check. Lakers get to get KG for Odom, Bynum and #19. Check. And Minny gets to move KG, dump a contract, and dont have to take back Odom and Bynum, whom it is reported they arent thrilled with.
The celtics dont want to be in this deal bc minny wants al jefferson included. The Pacers, Lakers, and Twolves seem to really want to get this deal done. We can easily step in for the balking celtics.
Lakers Get: KG and Jaric
Pacers Get: Odom and Bynum
Bulls Get: Jermaine Oneal.
twolves Get: Lakers #19, Bulls #9, Ben Gordon, Chris Duhon, and.....
Ok here's the thing. The Celtics offered #5, Ratliff, Green, and Telfair. The wolves wanted #5, ratliff, and Jefferson. So our offer has to be better than the first one to have a chance, and competitve witht he second one to be given strong consideration by Mchale.
Despite what i said in another thread about the difficulty of including sign and trades with draft picks, they would probably have to pull out the "agree in principle to a trade" and include Noc/PJ or both.
I don't think Noc would agree to play there bc he's young and might not want to play his entire prime there, but PJ might just take a fat one year paycheck to mentor a young team.
So How about #9, Gordon, Duhon, Khryapa, 2008 first, and sign and trade PJ?
Du, Vic, and PJ's salary cap relief would add up to 11-13 million in cap relief, plus Gordon and #9 would create a good young core with craig smith, foye, #7, and #19.
Gordon (proven 20ppg scorer) and Duhon(proven rotation player-expiring contract) and Khryapa (expiring contract but could play regular minutes in minny) are surely more attractuve than Green (potential without production) and telfiar (falling out of the league and legal troubles)
Thats a deal i think the bulls accept to get JOneal and one the wolves would take. It gives them an exciting young team.
Foye
Gordon
ricky davis/hassell/khryapa
craig smith
#7
#9
and #19 to biuld around
bullz
hinrich/thabo/2nd rounder
thabo/Griffin/FA-there's tons of affordable SGs out there http://www.sportsline.com/nba/transactions...nts/position/SG
Deng/Noc
Oneal/TT/Noc
Wallace/Oneal